Thursday, February 16, 2006


We all thought the oul' Muslims were a bit tetchy last week
after the kerfuffle they kicked up over a few cartoons,too
little to worry about,thats their problem.Now I read that
historian? David Irving is facing ten years in an Austrian
prison for Holocaust Denial.Hes not even denying it ever
happened,just that there has been exaggerations for
political purposes.
Latest News
January 10, 2006
MR Irving remains incarcerated in a Viennese prison pending trial on February 20 for "offences" of a kind unknown in English law or truly democratic societies.
To date, Mr Irving - never idle ever diligent no matter adversity - has hand-written 600 pages of memoirs, "Irving's War". He has received "156 letters from anonymous Austrians and Germans who are thinking what they are denied the freedom of speech to say". What kind of truth is so weak that it must imprison reasoning skeptics who dare to question it?
Professor Deborah Lipstadt the self-described "dragon-slayer" (though she refused to face the dragon/witness stand in 2000 in London's High Court) pleads: "Let him go and let him fade from everyone's radar screens". [BBC News January 4, 2006]

But ten years for maybe or maybe not exposing a few
fibs,now who's tetchy ?My own belief is..... No we won't go
there today.All I'm saying is there seems to be a
suspiciously high number of survivors still tottering
about who are dragged out every time the subject is
up for discussion.

David's cousin,Miley Irving,is in fierce trouble over here,but
I'll easily squezze a post out him in the future.


Foot Eater said...

Dodgy territory, this, AB. Irving has previously referred to Auschwitz as "a labour camp with an unfortunately high death rate." He goes beyond merely challenging the accepted figures of Holocaust deaths and has denied that gas chambers ever existed at all (though since his arrest he's recanted - conveniently enough).

For what it's worth, I don't think expressing an opinion should ever be illegal, including ones about Islam or the Holocaust. But David Irving is a dirty racist scumbag and worthy of nothing but contempt. He hates not only Jews but black people as well: check out some of the transcripts of his speeches on the Web.

fatmammycat said...

Tiis sort of thing is the peat briquette in the fire of the 'Free Speech' debate. Is there free speech or is there not? If I object to what Irvine says, fine, but should he be allowed say it? If I don't object to the cartoon should I be allowed print them?

the anti-barney said...

The previous post wasn't?If I was so inclined,I'd be quite capapable of racism and bigotry without reading some Polemicist's views.
All I'm saying is 10 years for Holocaust Denial seems a bit stiff.

Foot Eater said...

I agree, it is excessive, and as I said he should never have been prosecuted. He's still an arsehole, though.

the anti-barney said...


Binty McShae said...

Wrote about the twat last November...

He's a cock, no doubt, but to put someone away for talking shit? The world would be a pretty empty place...

Foot Eater said...

Very few of us would be walking the streets, that's for sure.